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KIA U.S.A. Again Displays Its Stupidity Post Lying About Mileage — Now It Won’t Let You Lease A Sedona Van.

Anura Guruge, June 8, 2013.

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I went to Team KIA, Concord, N.H., this afternoon to lease a Sedona van.

I had called them up on Saturday and told them I was coming.

When I get there they tell me that KIA U.S.
does not lease Sedonas.
You have to buy them outright.

That is STUPID.

Another example of KIA just not understanding what it takes to do business in the U.S.A.

They were STUPID to lie about their mileage … and then get caught.

By the way, they have yet to pay us the supposed rebate. So they lied about that too. Must be how they do business in Korea.

When I was a consultant I did a ton of work c. 1994 – 1995 for a Chicago leasing company. Father and son. Father had set up the company nearly 30 years ago. They were extremely successful, loaded and very generous. 95% of all of my business meeting with them were in very exclusive and expensive restaurants and clubs in and around Chicago. Until I started working for them I never realized that Hotels have secret, hidden away private clubs. You could stay at the hotel and never know that there was a huge club that you entered via a hidden door. Well, they taught me a lot about leasing. The father would say, repeatedly: ‘as long as something has a residual value that can be determine, you can lease it’. They leased Rolexs and sail boats — in addition to cars, trailers, planes and high-end IT equipment.

I remember that a few years ago Hyundai and  KIA didn’t do leasing at all.

Now that they do, to say that they don’t lease certain models is stupid.

Yes, I lease a KIA Sportage.

I like leasing. We don’t do that much milage. We don’t commute. We have two cars. No the Sportage we average 750 miles/month. So leasing is great for me. Hand it in at the end of 3 years and get a new car.

Bloody KIA. I sent them one of my polite e-mails.

Another way to interpret their reluctance to lease a Sedona is to assume that it is a piece of junk with NO RESIDUAL value after 3 years. That would make sense. If after 3 years it is worth nothing then leasing does not make sense to the lessee. So that must be it. The KIA Sedona is worthless after 3 years. That is what KIA is saying.

Now I will have to lease a van from Nissan or Chrysler.

I like Team KIA. They were 100% upfront when we leased the Sportage. That is why I was going to get another KIA. Well screw them.

Kia Updated Mileage — Post Flap.


Anura Guruge, laughing, picture November 16, 2011.

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by Anura Guruge


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>>Nov. 3, 2012.
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Hyundai & Kia Get Caught Overstating Expected Mileage.
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Oh, Oh! … — Nov. 2, 2012.

>>
Team KIA, Concord, NH — We Have Nothing But THE BEST Words

>> To Say About This Car Dealership — June 28, 2012.


Click to access MILEAGE SPECIFIC Kia site.


Mileage for the 2WD Automatic (though with a really COOL manual override that you can use as a normal stick) Sportage. CLICK to access complete chart.

I am ashamed to confess that I don’t know whether I have the 2.0L or the 2.4L. We actually didn’t have a choice. The lease price I sought was only available on two specific Sportages they had in stock — one white, one black. We picked the white.

I think we might have the 2.4L.

That the 2.4L gets better mileage than the 2.0L isn’t as counter-intuitive as you would think. The 2.0L will have to work harder, especially with a/c. So the new revised mileage is between 28 and 30 mpg. I believe that. I can get around 29.3 mpg.

Kia, Possibly To Show Contrition For Milage Overstatement, Offering Discounts For Fixing Cars Damaged By ‘Sandy’.


Anura Guruge, laughing, picture November 16, 2011.

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by Anura Guruge


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>> Hyundai & Kia Get Caught Overstating Expected Mileage.
>>
Oh, Oh! … — Nov. 2, 2012.

>>
Team KIA, Concord, NH — We Have Nothing But THE BEST Words

>> To Say About This Car Dealership — June 28, 2012.



Got an e-mail to this effect last night saying that they will fix any ‘Sandy’ related damages to Kias at a discount.

Since we lucked out, I deleted the e-mail. But, I now realized that there will be others that should make use of this offer. I, however, can’t find it on the Web! Hhhmmm.

But, if you do have a Hyundai or Kia that got damaged in the storm contact your dealership and see what they have to say. Your insurance company might know something about this too. All this said, you probably do know that the costs and estimates for body work on cars is a moveable feast. They manipulate the estimate to suit the insurance needs. So …

Hyundai & Kia Get Caught Overstating Expected Mileage [i.e., miles/gallon]. Oh, Oh! Naughty, Naughty. We Have A Kia.


Anura Guruge, laughing, picture November 16, 2011.

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by Anura Guruge


Related post:
>> Team KIA, Concord, NH — We Have Nothing But THE BEST Words
>> To Say About This Car Dealership — June 28, 2012.


Click to read ‘Wall Street Journal’ article …


We are supposed to get a rebate check, with a 15% bonus for the inconvenience, based on our estimated mileage. I doubt whether we will get much because we have yet to take our new Kia for its 1st service. Though we have done 3,400 miles, Kia will contend we haven’t done any.

We had a Hyundai Tuscon for 4 years prior to that, BUT I think this ruling only goes back 3 years.

In a way I am relieved. I have never been able to get more than 28.9 miles/gallon (per the onboard computer) on our KIA, base-model, 4-cylinder Sportage, though the published mileage was much higher. Though I am known for my speeding and penchant for driving over 100 mph (and complaining bitterly that my old Cadillac STL would cut-off at 108 mph), I can also drive very economically. So, I kind of suspected that the numbers for bogus. To me the gearing on the Sportage is WAY TO LOW. I feel like I am grinding along even when I am in 6th. So,, doesn’t surprise me that I don’t get 30+ mpg.

So, what does this say about the folks that sold the KIA to me? I am not sure. They were good to us. That I cannot take away from them. They obviously had to toe the company line.

Am I surprised that the a Korean company [Hyundai owns Kia and the cars are the same, just different trims and badges] would lie to me? No. That is what I would expect. Kind of cultural. It isn’t as if U.S. companies haven’t lied to us. Tobacco companies do come to mind. I think it is amusing.

IF I get a check, I will let you know.

NH Car Registration Fee Rate, $18 per $1,000 ‘list’ Price

Anura Guruge, laughing, picture November 16, 2011.

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by Anura Guruge

As with the length of wait for a permanent license after online renewal, the ‘above’ was another piece of information that I could not easily locate using Google.

So, yesterday we had to register the KIA we had bought on June 28, 2012 from the (still) good folks at TEAM KIA, Concord.

I had to confess, I was taken aback by how much it was to register. But, as the lady pointed out, NH must get its revenue in someway. I understand that (to my cost, since I also get hit on ‘income and dividend‘).

The rate, at least as it applies in Alton, NH, is $18 per $1,000 of ‘list price’ — with the list price per the NH DMV database, which I am sure only has average prices across a given model line. So, though we have the basic model, I am sure that the list price they used was that averaged out across all the models of that make. C’est la vie.

Hope this helps.

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