“The Two Pope”, 2019 Movie, Pure Fiction — Rather Than Faction &, Moreover, Riddled With Technical Errors.
Beautifully crafted, well acted movie though the MAIN storyline is pure, unadulterated fiction.
The primary crux of the story, the 2012 meeting between the then pope, Benedict XVI, & the future pope, viz. Francis, in Castel Gandolfo did NOT happen. Period.
Yes, in December 2011 ‘Francis’ (then Bergoglio) would have, per Canon Law, had to have tendered his RETIREMENT, by letter, to Benedict XVI. That was because he had turned 75. The retirement would have been from being the Archbishop of Buenos Aires. This is rote. All Bishops, irrespective of standing, must tender a letter of retirement upon turning 75. It is up to the pope to accept & there are instances when the pope might take 5-years to do so. The retirement would NOT have been a BIG deal. Bergoglio would NOT have disappeared from the Church. He could have still carried on his work in Argentina, albeit as a CARDINAL — a retired Archbishop. I think we have about 40 cardinals in this category as I write.
Plus, though it was rumored he was runner up in the 2005 conclave, Bergoglio, in 2012, was by no means the favorite to be the next Pope — especially not so in Benedict XVI’s eyes. All that was rubbish.
What disturbed me much was the rank technical errors to do with the conclaves. Those should not have occurred. Easy enough to have got right. They could have JUST checked one of my books. SMILE. (Yes, the “The Next Pope 2011” book was still good & accurate.)
Let me just list a few of the most egregious.
- They do NOT, let me REPEAT, do NOT, use ‘bingo balls’ to keep track of who has voted. That is so, so stupid. The cardinals vote per their precedence — which is also how they are seated. They get up, in a row, one-after-the-other, & go place their ballot. You don’t need bingo balls to keep track. All can see the cardinals voting in sequence. Where they got that was STUPID.
….. - The new pope does NOT appear on the balcony as the Habemus Papam is being announced. In 2013 there was a 30-minute gap between the Habemus Papam & Francis appearing on the balcony. In 2005 the gap was shorter BUT there is an interval, so that banners can be draped, before the new pope appears.
….. - The new pope CERTAINLY does not, causally, pick up his new white zucchetto from a shirt box in the Sistine sacristy as he is leaving it. There is a ceremony in which the white zucchetto is presented to the new pope by the Secretary of the Conclave! That was stupid.
…. - In 2013 Francis did NOT say “May God forgive you for what you have done in my regard” at the Conclave. He said it much later, in jest, over dinner. It was John Paul I, in 1978, who said it at the conclave. Jeez.
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The Chances Of Pope Francis RESIGNING Just Went Up — With November 19, 2016 Consistory.
I was anticipating this 4 months ago!
Remember I was the ONLY person who identified ‘Pope Francis’ as a possible pope,
IN PRINT, ahead of his election.
I even got the November 19, 2016 date right.
Click to access my seminal June 26, 2016 post on this very same topic.
Click to access “Reuters” coverage of the forthcoming November 19, 2016, cardinal creating consistory.
I also discussed, in this post, the SIGNIFICANCE of a November cardinal-creating consistory. Click image to access August 22, 2016 post.
Not a given, BUT Pope Francis opting for this November 19, 2016 cardinal creating consistory CERTAINLY increases the likelihood that Pope Francis may consider resigning/retiring/abdicating once he turns turns 80 on December 17, 2016.
He has openly talked about this possibility.
That he is TOPPING up the cardinal electors to the MAXIMUM 120 (legally) permitted is significant.
Let the “NEXT POPE“, papabili, speculation commence.
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November 2016 Cardinal Creating Consistory Or Will Pope Francis Hold Out Till February 2017?
In this post in June 2016 I had opined that November 19, 2016 would be a logical date for the next cardinal creating consistory — Pope Francis‘ third.
However, after what had been a long hiatus, I was talking, this weekend, with cardinalabili expert Louis Epstein. He believes that Pope Francis will wait till February 2017 given that both his prior cardinal creating consistories were in February.
He definitely has the option of waiting till February or even later.
We have 111 cardinal electors right now. Three will age-out (i.e., reach 80) by November 19, 2016. Three more would have aged out by February 16, 2017.
So, barring deaths, there will be 108 electors in November 2016 and 105 in February 2017. This is plenty enough to elect a pope.
So this again begs the question as to whether Pope Francis, who turns 80 on December 17, 2016, plans to retire anytime soon as he has been intimating for ‘years’. Louis thinks that Francis is having too much fun right now to retire. He could be right. If he doesn’t plan to retire before February 2017 he could very well wait till then for the next consistory.
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Will Pope Francis Retire/Resign In December 2016 — And If So November 19 Consistory?
From “National Catholic Register” (NCR) from 2 days ago. Click here for the original.
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Click to ENLARGE and read snippet here. Pope continues to REVEL in being confrontational, confounding, contradictory and just plain unpredictable.
Pope Francis will turn 80 on December 17, 2016.
Pope Francis has repeatedly stated, voluntarily, from the very start of his papacy on March 13, 2013, that his will be a short papacy and that he will have no qualms about retiring — though the notion of pope’s retiring only became a reality with the last pope, Benedict XVI.
Age ’80’, since the 1970s, has become an artificial ‘high water mark’ in Catholicism since this is when cardinals lose their right to vote in conclaves — while the nominal retirement agent for Archbishops, Bishops and senior curial officers is 75.
While the pope does not have to retire EVER — IF he does want to retire then turning 80 would be a symbolic time (and one that would be much appreciated by cardinals who don’t really like losing their franchise upon reaching that age).
December 17 isn’t that far away. If he resigns on or around his birthday there will be CHAOS with Christmas but two weeks away! They would have to hold a conclave just ahead of Christmas. That would be inconvenient. Yes, he can announce his retirement on his birthday and say that (like Benedict XVI) he will step down after ‘x-weeks’. That would take us into mid-January, and a conclave towards the end of January 2017.
Francis in his 3 years and 3 months as pope has held 2 cardinal creating consistories and created a total of 39 cardinals. That is unremarkable, not too many or not too little. Right now there are 112 cardinal electors (120 the supposed (but untested) MAX). There is no quorum per se. 60 cardinals electors could, quite legitimately, elect a pope. There were 117 eligible cardinal electors for the 2015 conclave and 113 participated.
The annual November “Solemnity of Christ the King” is a favored time, ‘of late’, for cardinal creating consistories. This year it will fall on Sunday, November 20, 2016. So the consistory will be held on the Saturday, November 19th, with the celebratory Mass on the Sunday feast.
November 19th is a propitious day for a cardinal creating consistory. Italian Cardinal Ennio Antonelli will turn 80 the day before opening up one more cardinal elector slot. Barring deaths, with Antonelli’s aging out the electors will be down to 108 on November 19th. Another, Théodore-Adrien Sarr, will turn 80 on November 28th — 9 days later. So there will be 13 genuine cardinal elector slots. That is a nice number to fill.
So, some food for thought.
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Ringling Brothers Circus In Manchester, NH, May 5 – 8, 2016 — Last Show With Elephants?
Click here to access the official Ringling Brothers and Barnum & Bailey Webpage for this show.
At the “Verizon Wireless Arena”
Thursday, May 5th to Sunday, May 8th.
I was puzzled when I got an e-mail from Verizon (with whom I am registered) that ‘THE CIRCUS‘ was coming to Town, viz. Manchester, New Hampshire (our ‘Queen City’), in May.
For the last 7 years or more the Ringling Brothers and Barnum & Bailey circus had come to Manchester in October. We should know since we have never missed a show during those years.
Yes, last October, with very poor attendance, I did hear staff talking that they might move the show away from October to avoid conflicts with the various Fall Fairs, e.g., Deerfield & Sandwich. So that could have been it.
The timing, early May, intrigued me. They have now stated that they will retire ALL elephant acts ‘IN May’. ‘In’ could mean sometime during that entire month. It is interesting that their promos for the show does feature elephants. So this could be HISTORIC for us. Last Ringling Brothers in Manchester with elephants.
As I have always advised: BEST way to get tickets for the circus (or for that matter any show at the Verizon) is to SOMEHOW, by hook or by crook, go directly to the Box Office at the arena. Buying tickets through ‘TicketMaster‘ is a SCAM.
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Ringling Brothers Circus To Do Way With Elephants, All Together, 18 Months Ahead Of Schedule!
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The original plan, as I had reported in March 2015, was to end the elephant acts by 2018. They have, bowing to increasing public pressure (some of it untoward in my (informed) opinion), decided to expedite the phase-out by quite a bit — by at least 18 months.
As I talked about in the March post I have mixed feelings about elephants performing in circuses, especially Ringling Brothers and Barnum & Bailey. I would rather see elephants perform than big cats. Having grown up in Ceylon, where elephants are domesticated, I know that elephants, in time, become like good dogs. They are happy to please and doing a few tricks, just like a dog, is no big deal. But, I have seen the documentaries, in particular, ‘An Apology to Elephants‘. So Ringling Brothers are doing the right thing. I am still a tad sad. I am 62 years old and have seen elephant shows all my life. Now, I guess, I will have to go to Sri Lanka, Thailand or India to see performing/working elephants.
Published on Oct 5, 2015 Ringling Brothers and Barnum & Bailey Circus, “Legends”, at the Verizon Arena, Manchester, NH, Sunday, October 4, 2015 — 4pm show. The elephant act in its entirety. Video shot by Deanna using her Olympus camera.
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Cardinal George Pell’s Criticism Of Benedict’s Resignation Will Impede His Chances Of Being Next Pope.
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It will NOT be the criticism of a pope, in this instance Benedict XVI, that will hurt his papabile credentials.
What will hurt his chances of being the Next Pope is WHAT he criticized Benedict for — i.e., that he was RESIGNING, which he did not think was appropriate. To be fair I agree with Pell on this. Pope should NOT resign. They should soldier on, despite any and all adversity, as did John Paul II.
So what is the problem?
The problem is that Pell has, with his criticism, indicated that there is NO CHANCE that he would resign — IF he were to become pope.
So, if Pell becomes pope he would stay pope till the end, as have so, so many other popes.
There are two ways that we could be in need of a NEW pope.
1/ Pope Francis, as he has intimidated many times, exploiting Benedict’s recent precedent, retires soon after he turns 80 — on December 17, 2016.
2/ Something happens to Pope Francis.
In the retirement scenario, George Pell will be 75.6 years old at the time of the conclave.
IF something happens to Francis prior to his 80th birthday, George Pell will be younger than 75.6.
A man that looks as robust as Pell could easily live into his mid-80s if not longer.
That means that if elected when he is 75, Pell could be pope for 10 years or more — GIVEN that he will not resign.
And that is the problem.
Today’s cardinals do not appear to want another long pontificate. Since John Paul II they have only elected popes that are older than 75.
So something to think about.
Will Australian Cardinal George Pell Be The Next Pope — After Francis?
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Cardinal George Pell.
One way or another, just going on what Pope Francis himself has repeatedly said about his ‘2 to 3 year life span’ and the possibility of him retiring (à la Benedict XVI), I have a distinct feeling that we will have a new pope, post Francis, in the next 18 months.
So, it falls upon me, as “Mr. Next Pope“, to start working on this again, though I had hoped for a longer break.
Australian Cardinal George Pell (74 years in age), though controversial in his own right (for his handling of sex abuse in Australia and being outspoken about both Benedict & Francis), is now seen, increasingly, as the ‘Leader of the Opposition’ — though ironically, Francis has also given him significant power (over Vatican budgets and finances) as a ‘trusted’ member of his ‘inner cabinet’.
Cardinal Carlo Caffarra.
My initial druthers had been that AFTER the Francis experiment, which has NOT worked out that well, that the cardinals will become even more introspective, batten down the Vatican hatches and decide to go back to the ‘ways of the old’ — i.e., an European pope, if NOT an Italian pope. Basically avoid another EXOTIC. And Pell, from Oceania (as the Vatican characterizes that part of the Pacific), is definitely an EXOTIC. But he does seems to have a following as exemplified by this recent letter of ‘no-confidence’ to Francis signed by 13 other cardinals. 13 cardinals is 66 votes short of the 2/3 majority that Pell would need to be elected pope. That is a fair chunk of cardinals that have to get behind him. But what is fascinating about the list of 13 is that it includes INFLUENTIAL names from all continents, and some with real clout, e.g., New York’s Dolan, Canada’s Collins, South Africa’s Fox Napier, Europe’s Müller. These folks can definitely rustle up votes from their colleagues.
At 74 Pell is YOUNG. The trend is towards OLDER, i.e., past 75, popes in the hope they don’t rule for decades and decades now that life expectancies are long.
I see that , in their infamous ‘Next Pope’ betting, has my 2013 #1 papabile, Canada’s Marc Ouellet at #2. But Marc is even younger! Philippines’ Tagle is but a wet dream. Not for another 20 years.
Here is a name to think about, 77 year old Italian Carlo Caffarra. His conservative credentials are impeccable.
Pope Francis Choosing Ireland Does NOT Mean He Will Personally Be There In 2018.
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Click to read original in “Irish Central”.
That Pope Francis will be visiting Ireland in 2018 is based on him selecting Dublin as the host city for the next triennial (every 3 years), “World Meetings of Families” in 2018. The reason Francis visited the U.S. last month was to attend the 8th meeting — which was in Philadelphia. Whenever possible the pope tries to attend these ‘World Meetings’. Hence the belief that Francis will visit Ireland in 2018.
But that might NOT be the case.
Pope Francis will turn 80 on December 17, 2016. Francis, as some of you will remember (and here are two separate links: link1 & link2), has intimated that his pontificate will be short and that he too could follow in the footsteps of his predecessor, Benedict XVI, and retire.
There is no retirement age for popes and popes are not normally expected to retire. But Benedict kind of set a new norm.
Cardinals lose their right to participate in conclaves when they turn 80. That is a BIG deal when it comes to a cardinal. So age 80 has significance in today’s Catholic Church. So there are those that believe that Francis will retire upon turning 80. IF he did there will be a new pope in 2018.
And here is the funny thing. Benedict was the one who chose Philadelphia for 2015. So there was the expectation that HE will visit the U.S. in 2015. He did not.
He actually resigned, when he did, so that a new pope would be in place to make the U.S. trip.
So re. Ireland we could have a repetition of this. A POPE will visit Ireland in 2018 but it might not be Francis.
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