Garmin’s ‘Vivomove Luxe/3’ & Vivosmart 4 Now Get ‘Connected GPS’ — Provided You Have Your Smartphone Handy.
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What I find here is that these watches did NOT have ‘Connected GPS’ from the get-go.
I have only ever bought Garmin, Fitbit or Amazfit watches with GPS so I have never required ‘Connected GPShttps://www.garmin.com/en-US/blog/fitness/connected-gps-now-on-vivosmart-4/‘.
I know that it has been available with Fitbit for a number of years. I have heard people talk about it. Thus, I had just assumed (incorrectly, of course) that Garmin must also have this capability by default.
The ‘Vivosmart’ is a $130 band. I can just about fathom why it doesn’t have GPS. For $40 more, you can get a ‘Vivosport‘, with GPS and a color display. That is what I got my wife.
The hybride ‘Vivomove’ with fixed hands and hidden color touchscreen is a $350 to $550 watch. You would think Garmin would offer GPS — maybe even as a $50 option. Guess not.
I love GPS on my watch. I use GPS, near daily, if I am doing a serious walk/run or hike. I do it to get (hopefully) a better distance measurement, i.e., GPS rather than accelerometer and gyroscope. Yes, GPS still leaves much to be desired, especially if you double back on yourself or walk in circles. But, I convince myself that the milage it shows is within +/- 5%. Yes, I have tested distnace with multiple watches (given that I have had at least 12 over the last 2-years) and vehicles.
Using the phone GPS is not the same. Yikes. I feel bad.
Very frustrating. And I am a Garmin shareholder to boot. Yikes.
‘Apple Watch Series 5’ Looks Good, Of Course, & Attractively Priced — BUT Only Has 18-Hour Battery Life.
18-hour battery life still does not cut it. I would say you need, at a minimum, double that to make it competitive with the likes of say a Garmin.
But, at $400, it is attractively priced and, as always, looks impressive.
Not sure why Apple struggles so with battery life. Some folks are now getting 2-weeks.
But, this is good for us Garmin fans. We can still make fun and look down our noses at Apple Watch wearers.
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Yes, all-in-all I lucked out. I literally walked away from my quad-tendon reattachment surgery with no pain, no limp, no discomfort and no lack of flexibility.
I can basically do everything I could prior to surgery though I am not running as much as I used to. I do run but I do notice that it is not kind to my knees. So, instead I walk 4.2+ miles 5 to 6 times a week.
I am HUGE fan of knee braces. I used to wear them, off-and-on prior to my injury. IF I had been bearing one I might have saved myself the surgery.
As soon as I hurt myself I put a brace on my knee. It immediately took away much of the pain. At ER they gave me a full-length brace (see above). That was good. But, a few hours later I was fitted with a ‘DonJoy X-Act ROM Hinged, Knee Brace‘. That was even better. I wore it 24×7 during the week prior to surgery. That week I went to Cape Cod on a mini-vacation. With that brace I could walk, in the snow, with no problem or pain!
I wore that brace for a month after surgery. It served me well though it was brutal on my thigh muscles. I found and switched to a smaller hinged brace with my surgeon’s blessing. Again, see above or check out this link.
I had told my surgeon, at one of my follow-up appointments, that I planned to wear a brace, on my, knee for life. He laughed, then realized that I was not joking. He then came around and said that it would do me no harm and that yes, it would even help.
I have been wearing an assortment of braces since. Not all the time. Definitely when I am walking, running, hiking or out-and-about. I found the simple ACE knee supports remarkably effective. Didn’t need anything else.
But, for my 4.2+ mile walks I decided I need more support. I was carrying 18 lbs of extra weight — in the form of a 12 lbs weighted vest and two 3 lbs wrist weights. I am going to give the 12 lbs vest a rest.
I got the NEENCA brace, shown above (twice), today. It is very comfortable and provides excellent support. Looking forward to walking with it tomorrow.
I definitely recommend it. About the same price as an ACE support. So, you can’t go wrong.
So, that is my story. Hope it helps.
There was no pain to talk about
— throughout, from surgery to now.
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Not my cup of tea — BUT I am 66-years old and wear a Garmin MARQ Expedition. Maybe if I was 40-years younger and had $400 to burn on a novelty watch (and thinking back, I probably could have afforded such if I wanted (SMILE)).
Nice bezels and nice straps. Not sure about the watch faces. And the price $400.
Also, they don’t each come in both sizes, i.e., 45mm (standard) and 40mm (small). That surprised I. The 45-mm is the ‘First Avenger’ & the smaller is ‘Captain Marvel’. I am too old to know the difference or those superheroes BUT does that size distinction make sense. I am from the Superman era. So, will Garmin make more of these? The mind boggles and as a long-term Garmin investor this kind of bothers I. Not sure what the market is. Can’t be huge. Pretty sure that by Christmas 2019 these two watches will be available close to $300.
Both based on the new Vivoactive 4 — 45mm & 40mm. But, unlike the Vivoactive 4 it is not available as yet. As with the new Garmin Venu Garmin is quoting 5 – 8 weeks. Think: “just ahead of Black Friday”.
Yes, even Garmin Connect has been updated to cater for these watches.
I am sorry, but I am skeptical. Can you … will you wear this to work … in an office? Can you … will you wear this to the gym? Can you … will you wear this to a fancy restaurant? I wouldn’t. But, then again … (SMILE).
So, what do YOU think? Would you buy one? Would you wear one if one was given to you for FREE? [No, nope … I am not making an offer or any promises.]
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From what I can see the software was downloaded in two batches — Thursday night and Friday night (i.e., yesterday). I got the ‘4.10’ message last night.
Took a second to get used to the ‘widgets at a glance‘ BUT now I love it. You do get to see more data, quicker.
I tried the Fenix 6 watch faces. I have NEVER been a fan of Garmin watch faces! They are interesting BUT not my cup of tea.
I was gone to a multicultural festival all day. So, haven’t had timed to play around with any of the other features. But, they all seem to be there.
Well done, Garmin. You did good.
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I had given you a head-up on the Venu a few weeks ago, but I had no idea what the specs were going to be. Now, we know.
It, other than in terms of physical size/weight, DISPLAY TYPE and battery life, is IDENTICAL to the also new Vivocative 4 — albeit the Venu $50 more expensive. See 2nd image above, from Garmin, when you do their COMPARE and ask just for the ‘differences’.
The BIG breakthrough is the AMOLED touchscreen display with a 390×390 resolution, a full 50% higher resolution than on other recent Garmins, including the new Fenix 6. That is BIG. Wow. A 50% increase in screen resolution. The watch face is Garmin’s ‘old’ 1.2″ standard (as in say Fenix 5 Plus) rather than the new 1.3″ as in Fenix 6 & VA4. Also 20mm strap, as in Fenix ‘S’ models rather than the 22mm strap.
I gather, however, that this takes a heavy toll on battery life and it is difficult to keep it in ‘Always On’ mode. Garmin’s stated battery life (above) would indicate (to I) about a 24-hour battery life with 3-4 hours of music and 1.5 hours of GPS. I could just about get by with that, but it would be frustrating.
Garmin has added a LOT of high-end functionality into the Venu & Vivoactive 4: viz., Pulse Ox, Body Battery, respiration tracking, advanced sleep monitoring, music, Garmin Pay, fall detection etc. So, that is a LOT of smartwatch for the $399 price. Much better than anything that Fitbit offers — from what I can see. I am glad. I am a longtime Garmin shareholder. SMILE.
While the Vivoactive 4 is available now, the Venu is slated for Garmin’s infamous 5-8 weeks. That is not good. I will keep an eye on that for you.
I have had 12 Fitness Trackers In The Last 2-Years.
I fully appreciate the dynamics and physics. I am NOT new to this and as you can see above I have been LUCKY enough to have(/evaluate) 12 decent (one could even say ‘high-end’) activity trackers over the last year, spanning Garmin, Fitbit, Polar and Amazfit. And I will say upfront: ‘in my opinion Garmin, especially with the likes of the Fenix 5 (Plus) is better at counting steps than a Fitbit’. But, that is kind of old news.
My wife wears a Garmin Vivosport. She has the same questions. How much of the step count is phantom?
It is inevitable. The accelerometer has to measure arm movements. It has no idea I am in the shower and standing still. It thinks I am walking. And then there was the 6-weeks when I was on crutches! Never counted my labored steps, and I was walking more than most — on the crutches — because my left hand wasn’t moving enough! Again, I understand. Just frustrating.
Why it always happens in the shower these days has to do with my latest ‘schedule’ of the last two-months. As I continue to recover from my knee surgery I have upped the mileage on my morning walk/run from ~3.5 miles to 4+ miles — always with GPS on. Given that a GPS mile equates to about 2,400 steps I am at about 9,700 — 9,800 steps when I get home. Then I get in the shower. Then I hit my GOAL. Bingo.
I did some EXTENSIVE step count record keeping with the Fitbit Inspire HR. With brushing teeth and showering I was clocking up around 400 steps in the bathroom. So, Garmin isn’t doing too bad.
Yes, I walk more than 10,000 steps MOST days. In the days I do, I am in excess of 14,000. So, the 10,000 is not my max. I also realize and tell people that what counts is the trend. Doing the same number of (or more) steps each day.
But, wanted to share this because it has got so rote — having the Garmin do its ‘GOAL’ celebration while I shower.
Oh, I average 41 floors count a day. I go past the 10 floor goal every day (as long as I am not on crutches). I usually hit that goal in the first 30-minutes of my walk/run because I live on the side of a ‘mountain’ and can’t go in any direction without doing some major elevation changes.